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RE: REAL HK416D up for auction/not SF...

Brad4065

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Not mine/no affiliation......

I've got a little bit of experience with these, but if I recall correctly, I thought there were only 7 HK16D's without the SF in civilian hands.

@Nzfly has far more info than I, and can chime in.
I "think" the last one I saw go for sale went for $24K.....and I could be wrong on that too^^^ will know better details.

Lastly, do your homework if you really want it and make sure you research it, and it's background. I do not recall the upper being sold from the original owner....but I only have limited info and could be wrong. Don't get me wrong.....I don't know the seller and I'm not bashing or accusing.....just do your work if you want it.


Cheers!!!!! Good luck!!!!
 

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Believe the Upper's SerNo 'kerning' has been ratted out to be a fake... Don't know if the seller went out of his way to clone a blank upper or that he may have been scammed if he bought it separately to mate up with the lower. Nice looking gun though...

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The Lower has seen some use; note the typical charging handle rake marks (circled). As for the upper, there would be a substantial wear marks where the charging handle lever rides over and into the detent; all uppers get this wear mark within a few outings... The upper sure looks new, but the rear sight sure looks pretty used...
Again, the seller may be unaware that the upper may not be original. But damn, I really like this gun...

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Holly F****
$25000?
I paid $2500 NEW, Drop Shipped from HK.
But both of mine have ONE MORE Pin just above the selector :unsure:

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I would love to know how you pulled that off!!!!!!!!!!!
Do you have a FFL/SOT? Are you also allowed to purchase post 86 MG's?

Thank you in advance!!!!

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Believe the Upper's SerNo 'kerning' has been ratted out to be a fake... Don't know if the seller went out of his way to clone a blank upper or that he may have been scammed if he bought it separately to mate up with the lower. Nice looking gun though...

I noticed this discrepancy, as well. ;)

Tony
 

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The Lower has seen some use; note the typical charging handle rake marks (circled). As for the upper, there would be a substantial wear marks where the charging handle lever rides over and into the detent; all uppers get this wear mark within a few outings... The upper sure looks new, but the rear sight sure looks pretty used...
Again, the seller may be unaware that the upper may not be original. But damn, I really like this gun...

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Great eye!!!!!

It's my understanding that this guy purchased the lower from the original owner, not the original seller, through the auction on GB many years back.

The upper came along later.....that's my understanding, and if I'm incorrect it's unintentional .
 

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They say he is knowingly selling a faked upper. I am not sure what to think, He is a long time member and always seemed nice to me. Maybe he will join and we can find out more
 

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@GuntherRommel you are correct. They banned him for selling a re-marked upper in order to match the lower......that's what I heard from
a reputable source. I advised my source to send him here......but don't try to sell fakes here either, or IF you do, full disclosure. 😉

Cheers!!!!!!
 

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@GuntherRommel you are correct. They banned him for selling a re-marked upper in order to match the lower......that's what I heard from
a reputable source. I advised my source to send him here......but don't try to sell fakes here either, or IF you do, full disclosure. 😉

Cheers!!!!!!

Do we really want an alleged "known" fraud here? :unsure:
We will not tolerate shenanigans here. 🔨

Tony
 

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Ok Tony.....you have a good point. @GuntherRommel ......nevermind. :rolleyes:

My bad.....only good intent. 😉

Cheers!!!!!
Here is my take on this:
koolaid has been around for quite awhile and I don’t recall seeing anything negative about him. I questioned some of his prices, but then again, I did that internally And did not feel it was my place to question him regarding what he thought it was worth.
there Is a lot of damning evidence against him and the way he dug in… makes me wonder if he was just duped or was he in fact trying to do the duping.
Did he get swindled, realized it and tried to recover, or was he unaware of the differences?
personally, I would like to give him the benefit of the doubt, but man!!!!…. He never acknowledged that it was a fake or a misrepresentation, whether knowingly or unknowingly.
I will reserve judgement on this and see what happens, but I would really like to hear his side without all of the denials and counter accusations on his part.
I have no love for a swindle, but once again, I feel there is more to this than meets the eye.
M.
 
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