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ATI MKE AT43 Find

Charlie_atlas

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Found this at a local shop here in our small town. It was “new in box” and “on sale”.

I’m new to HK clones or HK in general. After speaking with members on here I was advised to purchase it at that price.

The shop owner stated that he has had it since before 2016. All he could tell me about it was “it’s a nice gun” and “it should be pretty good shooter with that heavy barrel”.

Yall know more about this then me.. is it a find or flop?
 

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More photos.
 

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Nice find indeed!

Imported as a rifle, wouldn't it be already 922r compliant, as long as it's stock?
 

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Nice find indeed!

Imported as a rifle, wouldn't it be already 922r compliant, as long as it's stock?

Excellent point--- I can only presume that MKE provided the necessary (U.S.) parts, prior to distribution. ;)
Stay within the parts count--- don't replace U.S. parts with Turkish (or other foreign) parts. :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

Tony
 

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Excellent point--- I can only presume that MKE provided the necessary (U.S.) parts, prior to distribution. ;)
Stay within the parts count--- don't replace U.S. parts with Turkish (or other foreign) parts. :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

Tony
Heed this advice. Every time someone replaces a US 922r part with an import part, an ATF angel feels the hair rise on the back of his (or her) neck.
 

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It's fine, as long as you leave it alone and don't reconfigure it. But there ain't any US made parts in that thing.
Serious question: If it was imported as a rifle, doesn't it need to be 992r with a certain number of US parts? And wouldn't it have had those added upon import before being sold in the US?
 

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Serious question: If it was imported as a rifle, doesn't it need to be 992r with a certain number of US parts? And wouldn't it have had those added upon import before being sold in the US?
I’m no expert, but when I was going to send my SP5K-PDW to MM to have it remarked, he stated he would have to make it 922r compliant. I assumed from that statement that it did not have any American parts, and would need to be in compliance if any work was to be done on it. I chose to keep it unmolested .
Like I said... I’m no expert.
Thanks,
M.
 

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Serious question: If it was imported as a rifle, doesn't it need to be 992r with a certain number of US parts? And wouldn't it have had those added upon import before being sold in the US?
If it was imported as a BATFE approved rifle, it does not need to be 922r compliant. The SL8 has no US made parts for example.
 

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I’m no expert, but when I was going to send my SP5K-PDW to MM to have it remarked, he stated he would have to make it 922r compliant. I assumed from that statement that it did not have any American parts, and would need to be in compliance if any work was to be done on it. I chose to keep it unmolested .
Like I said... I’m no expert.
Thanks,
M.

That was imported as a pistol. When converted to a rifle, then 922r comes into play. (Disregarding the whole 'does an SBR need to be 922r compliant?' argument).
If it was imported as a BATFE approved rifle, it does not need to be 922r compliant. The SL8 has no US made parts for example.
That makes sense. Just for my own knowledge: is it when a rifle is imported in a some sort of 'sporter' configuration, that it has to maintain 922r compliance? I'm much more familiar with AK variants where this is the case. And the above comments about pistols converted to rifles and 922r.

I wasn't even considering there are 'non-sporter' rifles being imported that did not need 922r. When was the ATI43 imported? That makes a difference, doesn't it?
 

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I’m not well educated on the 922 compliance rules. Years ago I converted a saiga 12 from its imported “sporter” configuration and remember a little about people discussing 922. I have some reading up to do as I would like to be educated in that area. Back then I didn’t care if it was legal or not and bubba’d it pretty bad. I’m older now and would like to do things correct.

Maybe what I meant to ask was... do I leave it untouched or do y’all have any suggestions for my next steps with this gun.
 

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That was imported as a pistol. When converted to a rifle, then 922r comes into play. (Disregarding the whole 'does an SBR need to be 922r compliant?' argument).

That makes sense. Just for my own knowledge: is it when a rifle is imported in a some sort of 'sporter' configuration, that it has to maintain 922r compliance? I'm much more familiar with AK variants where this is the case. And the above comments about pistols converted to rifles and 922r.

I wasn't even considering there are 'non-sporter' rifles being imported that did not need 922r. When was the ATI43 imported? That makes a difference, doesn't it?
Those ATI imports were back in 2010. If the importer wanted to get rifles approved by the BATFE, they needed to be sporterized (thumbhole stocks, 10 round mags, mag blocks, etc.). That's why Zenith for the most part only brought in pistol configs. Anything they converted to rifles after import, required 922r compliance. At least that's my understanding.
 

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If you all look closer, you will notice the lack of a flash hider, fixed stock, and 10 round MKE magazine. That points to this as having been imported as a sporting rifle.

-E-
 

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If you all look closer, you will notice the lack of a flash hider, fixed stock, and 10 round MKE magazine. That points to this as having been imported as a sporting rifle.

-E-

Was the stock welded to the trigger pack housing, and spot welds in magazine well to prevent insertion of HK33/53/93 magazines? :unsure:

Tony
 
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