overkill8000
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This post is to shed some light on something going on. I was Overkill8000 on HKpro since 2014 till a few months ago, I was permabanned for posting someone's personal info and arguing with a member who is friends with Tom(8years I had never had a warning or issue previously). All the arguments were resulted from me selling airsoft sunshades on gunbroker as STYLE sunshades (had the same GB name as my HKpro name), After a ton of arguing with various members I conceded to not sell mounts on Gunbroker anymore. That's when I started this project of a REAL era tac mount, but with clone shades (As everyone's hang up was the mount being airsoft grade aluminum) More arguments came later when I wasn't willing to tell people how I did it, and I was charging a lot for my 3 units. After arguments and arguments about the airsoft sunshades not being up to snuff for practical use the first time (when I was selling them as Style sunshades on GB) I decided to try and get a real one. I needed one in black as my G28 is a black version. I started my hunt but quickly realized that a ral8000 one was near impossible much less a black one! So while looking on Euro Optic I saw an era-tac mount for aimpoint T1, but it wasn't threaded on the sides for a sunshades mounting hardware. The style and dimensions looked almost to be exact though. So I had an idea of buying one and tapping it for the Airsoft sunshades. Airsoft sunshades are pure aluminum as they are anodized from VFC (Airsoft company).
So I bought the mount and when it came in it looked very close to working with the airsoft sunshades! So I sent off the mount to be tapped for the sunshade screws. When the mount came back I put it all together and had hit a snag. The front shade butted up correctly, and it was tight to the aimpoint unit. The rear shade was a different story! The bottom of the sunshade could not get close enough to the mount to be tight. The top of the rear shade was literally rocking back and forth almost a quarter of an inch. That wasn't going to work, as I don't think anyone would want that, plus the noise of it bouncing off the housing.... So I took the bases and the sunshades to a local machinist. He figured out for me to mill the sunshade upper half down, and it would allow the rear sunshade to tuck under and mount up to the base tightly. I was cooking with fire at that point, and sent the sunshades off to be cerakoted black to match close as possible to the factory anodized mount. before and after photos below.
So I ended up making 4 total units as I figured id make a couple extra to sell and cover the cost of the whole project. I sold 3 and kept 1 for myself. One of the people I sold one to on gunbroker was Felipe (I wont use his last name) but hes to owner of EliteUAS (mostly sells night vision stuff). He was told via my sale ad that it was a real ERA Tac base, but that the sunshades were clones, but Solid aluminum. That they had been milled to work with the mount. That the mount was tapped and grade 8 hardware was added for attaching the sunshades.
So today I get a text from a buddy that someone on HK pro is doing exactly what I did, and the rear sunshade in the photo has the indention that mine had to work with the units. (It's my unit) They are using pictures they took of my mount to sell the 80 plus mounts they have one their way. I went over there and checked it out.... this is to be an informative post to anyone interested in one of these mounts. First the mount they are using is not the correct length of the real T1 sunshade mount (it's shorter). Also "PEW Group" will be his vendor for said units, He had "PEW group" copy the black unit sunshades in CAD as they will be making their sunshades in USA. Problem with that is, the black mount is mine and they are Airsoft shades and are not correct to the actual era tac sunshades. So they are producing sunshades based off clone sunshades.....
My main issue with all this, they are taking credit for what I figured out. Also they have posted things in the thread today that are not true. Felipe posted that the units pictured were factory units, here is his picture with my unit on his gun. Note the indention on the sunshade, that's because it had to be milled to work. It's not a factory correct sunshade in other ways too. The curve of the hood, and the mounting holes are wrong. Also I had my sunshades cerakoted and the bases I left factory anodized. Picture below is there picture with my red edits.
Here are the photos of the guy saying it was a factory unit they based it off of, and that hes all about integrity.
To conclude I posted the process and the pictures of what needs to be done for you to make one yourself. Since he took my research and development time and didn't even clear it with me, or give me credit.... I figured id give it away (not that its super complicated anyways)
If you were to do it yourself using airsoft shades with cerakoting you'd be at around 200 bucks, or you can pay him 600. The airsoft shades are 100% aluminum and can be anodized, and since the shades he is having made in America cad work is based of my clone shades both shades are the same. He's also not anodizing them hes cerakoting them as well.
So I bought the mount and when it came in it looked very close to working with the airsoft sunshades! So I sent off the mount to be tapped for the sunshade screws. When the mount came back I put it all together and had hit a snag. The front shade butted up correctly, and it was tight to the aimpoint unit. The rear shade was a different story! The bottom of the sunshade could not get close enough to the mount to be tight. The top of the rear shade was literally rocking back and forth almost a quarter of an inch. That wasn't going to work, as I don't think anyone would want that, plus the noise of it bouncing off the housing.... So I took the bases and the sunshades to a local machinist. He figured out for me to mill the sunshade upper half down, and it would allow the rear sunshade to tuck under and mount up to the base tightly. I was cooking with fire at that point, and sent the sunshades off to be cerakoted black to match close as possible to the factory anodized mount. before and after photos below.
So I ended up making 4 total units as I figured id make a couple extra to sell and cover the cost of the whole project. I sold 3 and kept 1 for myself. One of the people I sold one to on gunbroker was Felipe (I wont use his last name) but hes to owner of EliteUAS (mostly sells night vision stuff). He was told via my sale ad that it was a real ERA Tac base, but that the sunshades were clones, but Solid aluminum. That they had been milled to work with the mount. That the mount was tapped and grade 8 hardware was added for attaching the sunshades.
So today I get a text from a buddy that someone on HK pro is doing exactly what I did, and the rear sunshade in the photo has the indention that mine had to work with the units. (It's my unit) They are using pictures they took of my mount to sell the 80 plus mounts they have one their way. I went over there and checked it out.... this is to be an informative post to anyone interested in one of these mounts. First the mount they are using is not the correct length of the real T1 sunshade mount (it's shorter). Also "PEW Group" will be his vendor for said units, He had "PEW group" copy the black unit sunshades in CAD as they will be making their sunshades in USA. Problem with that is, the black mount is mine and they are Airsoft shades and are not correct to the actual era tac sunshades. So they are producing sunshades based off clone sunshades.....
My main issue with all this, they are taking credit for what I figured out. Also they have posted things in the thread today that are not true. Felipe posted that the units pictured were factory units, here is his picture with my unit on his gun. Note the indention on the sunshade, that's because it had to be milled to work. It's not a factory correct sunshade in other ways too. The curve of the hood, and the mounting holes are wrong. Also I had my sunshades cerakoted and the bases I left factory anodized. Picture below is there picture with my red edits.
Here are the photos of the guy saying it was a factory unit they based it off of, and that hes all about integrity.
To conclude I posted the process and the pictures of what needs to be done for you to make one yourself. Since he took my research and development time and didn't even clear it with me, or give me credit.... I figured id give it away (not that its super complicated anyways)
If you were to do it yourself using airsoft shades with cerakoting you'd be at around 200 bucks, or you can pay him 600. The airsoft shades are 100% aluminum and can be anodized, and since the shades he is having made in America cad work is based of my clone shades both shades are the same. He's also not anodizing them hes cerakoting them as well.