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RE: "Ultra Rare P7M8"..... {Sigh}.....
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Guyanaman1963
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So now that same serial # is Saudi Prototype? Now thats interesting!!!
M.
The slide came from the same guy from whom I bought "Goldie", the gold plated engraved P7K3 in 9mmK in a leather presentation case that some may remember. It has no frame number inside the slide for that reason, never assembled into a gun at the factory. If it was, it would have that number as do all the P7M13 built for the Saudi's. The stripped frame from him as well, never assembled into a gun at the factory, this is why no proofs or markings other than the serial number.
The grips I bought from Wilfried Nill when I visited him at his shop pre-COVID. Awesome guy. I have another set of those grips bought on that trip currently for sale "elsewhere", as all can see. That is why no Saudi crest stamped in the wood, that would have been done by H&K after their Nill grips were delivered to the factory.
The PT8 mags came from Sascha (also an awesome guy) at Collector Gunparts, also on a personal visit. He still has some. I actually still have a couple more, just in case I ever find a P7 PT8. Same source for the box, manual, scraper and brush. The box was not Saudi marked when I bought it, and from what I can tell still isn't.
The other parts came from a mint NOS P7M8 that donated it's guts and the assembly/fitting was done by a well known H&K Armorer.
That is the true history of this piece. It is a unique gun, no doubt, how many Saudi marked P7 guns are there out there, but it is no rare prototype. It's a parts gun, and as I said, the current owner knew that when I sold it to him, supposedly on behalf of a collector in Puerto Rico. I guess that wasn't true either....
"And thus I clothe my naked villainy
With odd old ends stol'n out of holy writ;
And seem a saint, when most I play the devil."
-William Shakespeare, Richard III
The grips I bought from Wilfried Nill when I visited him at his shop pre-COVID. Awesome guy. I have another set of those grips bought on that trip currently for sale "elsewhere", as all can see. That is why no Saudi crest stamped in the wood, that would have been done by H&K after their Nill grips were delivered to the factory.
The PT8 mags came from Sascha (also an awesome guy) at Collector Gunparts, also on a personal visit. He still has some. I actually still have a couple more, just in case I ever find a P7 PT8. Same source for the box, manual, scraper and brush. The box was not Saudi marked when I bought it, and from what I can tell still isn't.
The other parts came from a mint NOS P7M8 that donated it's guts and the assembly/fitting was done by a well known H&K Armorer.
That is the true history of this piece. It is a unique gun, no doubt, how many Saudi marked P7 guns are there out there, but it is no rare prototype. It's a parts gun, and as I said, the current owner knew that when I sold it to him, supposedly on behalf of a collector in Puerto Rico. I guess that wasn't true either....
"And thus I clothe my naked villainy
With odd old ends stol'n out of holy writ;
And seem a saint, when most I play the devil."
-William Shakespeare, Richard III
Tailflash
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@Lamont
Now that's an interesting story. I had tagged this same gun earlier in my GB 'watch list' just to see if someone would bite on the BIN price from some with deep pockets (like AGG/Tony) but assume this price may change substantially, now that the cat is out of the bag. Beautiful 'parts' gun regardless. I hope someday to get a nice condition P7 variant as a shooter (not dust collector). I wonder if the seller will pull this auction or at least amend the description...
Re: Actual Kingdom of Saudi Arabia P7M13 with Palm & Swords Crest on grips:
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Now that's an interesting story. I had tagged this same gun earlier in my GB 'watch list' just to see if someone would bite on the BIN price from some with deep pockets (like AGG/Tony) but assume this price may change substantially, now that the cat is out of the bag. Beautiful 'parts' gun regardless. I hope someday to get a nice condition P7 variant as a shooter (not dust collector). I wonder if the seller will pull this auction or at least amend the description...
Re: Actual Kingdom of Saudi Arabia P7M13 with Palm & Swords Crest on grips:
The Red Room Collection
Prototype SP89 built from 94 and marked HK94 KA1 by bofrench_hk, on Flickr KA1 markings by bofrench_hk, on Flickr SP89 serial number 1 by bofrench_hk, on Flickr HK94 with T&E ONLY marking by bofrench_hk, on Flickr 94 T&E detail by bofrench_hk, on Flickr HK SL6 T&E ONLY marked by...
Interesting question. I don't think we've heard the last though, I'm told there are other stories about other guns/listings out there, but I have no first hand knowledge of them, only what I've been told. Second hand is also known as hearsay. This may bring some of them out of the wood work. While the overblown descriptions rubbed a lot of people the wrong way from the very beginning, a man is allowed to say whatever he likes, however he likes, as long as he doesn't depart from the truth. I not only defended his right to do so, but did business with him as well until his lead time surpassed 6 months. Certainly he had a demonstrated ability to get top dollar for really nice pieces. I never understood why he didn't stick with such items, a 24k description on a 14k item will make folks eyes roll.
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