AA12 shotgun ownership... it was a dream of mine so close to being finally realized

[dirtyharriett]

Well I was one of the unfortunate souls to lose $3000 as a pre-buyer of one of the new AA12's that were being made by Sol Invictus Arms until a late breaking ATF fiasco. They were almost ready to ship the first batches when an ex jaded partner contacted the ATF and opened up a can of worms that looks like has ended the whole project. I don't know if I have ever wanted another firearm so bad that almost was in my hands. They even had a lottery for the first 10 serial numbers and I was lucky enough to be the third name picked. I was going to have S/N #3. The only other gun I have wanted that bad that I still desire is a HK MP7. Now with the new bans and gun taxes probably just over the horizon... my new dream is just to be able to keep what I already have. Man what a sad state of affairs.

 

[AGG]

Hate to hear that--- the only, transferable, Atchisson AA-12 (prototype), on Form 4, sold a back in 2008.
There is always a transferable USAS 12.

Tony

 

[AGG]

Here is the story:

Sledgehammer woes: AA12 ATF Confiscation - The Mag Life

There are reports of AA12 ATF confiscation letters and seizures. They're reportedly confiscating both the semi- and fully-auto configurations.

gunmagwarehouse.com

Tony

 

[MMissile]

What was the semi-auto version of that beast? Back in 80's-90's....

 

[dirtyharriett]

What was the semi-auto version of that beast? Back in 80's-90's....

I don't even think semi's were made in that era. I was under the understanding that they only made full auto's for the military and law enforcement pretty much the entire time they originally sold them. I've never completely understood what little info I have read on the semis that were supposedly in existence before Sol Invictus Arms got involved to manufacture them. I just know I have given up pretty much any hope of getting one or getting my 3k back.

 

[MMissile]

I don't even think semi's were made in that era. I was under the understanding that they only made full auto's for the military and law enforcement pretty much the entire time they originally sold them. I've never completely understood what little info I have read on the semis that were supposedly in existence before Sol Invictus Arms got involved to manufacture them. I just know I have given up pretty much any hope of getting one or getting my 3k back.

That's such a bummer. When I prepay for anything with a later release date, I only wait till my guts says "you're gonna get stung". It's generally only a couple months of no good-news. I've got hit a couple times, over the years. Car stuff.

 

[AGG]

What was the semi-auto version of that beast? Back in 80's-90's....

Never a semi-automatic version--- even now.

Tony

 

[MMissile]

It was a very similar platform, and was declared a DD by the BATFE.

 

[MMissile]

Found it. I had one for 2-days. The guy who bought it...registered it.

USAS-12 - Internet Movie Firearms Database - Guns in Movies, TV and Video Games

www.imfdb.org

 

[Johnny]

Definitely one of my top 5 grail guns

 

[AGG]

Found it. I had one for 2-days. The guy who bought it...registered it.

USAS-12 - Internet Movie Firearms Database - Guns in Movies, TV and Video Games

www.imfdb.org

View attachment 355

Non-sporting shotgun having a bore of more than 1/2” diameter- declared NFA Destructive Device on 02-28-94, effective 03-01-94 (ATF Ruling 1994-1); amnesty registration on 02-02-01, effective through 05-01-01) (ATF Ruling 2001-1)

Tony

 

[MMissile]

That's why I sold it. The original owner never fired it, and I couldn't be involved in NFA stuff in Mi........without a FFL license of some sort. I got to play with it for 2 days. LOL. After close to 2 decades, it's hard to remember what it was. My SPAS-15 was so much cooler, and a bunch lighter. Mags were a PITA.

 

[AGG]

That's why I sold it. The original owner never fired it, and I couldn't be involved in NFA stuff in Mi........without a FFL license of some sort. I got to play with it for 2 days. LOL. After close to 2 decades, it's hard to remember what it was. My SPAS-15 was so much cooler, and a bunch lighter. Mags were a PITA.

Much lighter--- I am still searching for the elusive, 10-round, "factory" magazine--- red or green markings.

Tony

 

[MMissile]

I can't remember, but if I recall....the mags with green markings were less common. I had 5 mags, and 1 had the odd colored marking. I passed on many, due to cost and I wasn't shooting it.

 

[AGG]

I can't remember, but if I recall....the mags with green markings were less common. I had 5 mags, and 1 had the odd colored marking. I passed on many, due to cost and I wasn't shooting it.

Ammunition (green/“less-than-lethal”- rubber slugs, nylon “close range”; red/“lethal”).

Tony

 

[MMissile]

I figured that was the case. I wasn't shooting anything thru mine. 18" side-folder. It was unfired, and I had a screw-on "breacher"? and the cap.

 

[AGG]

I figured that was the case. I wasn't shooting anything thru mine. 18" side-folder. It was unfired, and I had a screw-on "breacher"? and the cap.

That configuration was pretty rare.

Tony

 

[MMissile]

It didn't have import-marks, either. A guy walked into my FFL's shop with it, many years ago. He knew I'd want it.

 

[AGG]

It didn't have import-marks, either. A guy walked into my FFL's shop with it, many years ago. He knew I'd want it.

I had a close, FFL friend that would call me too--- he also knew what I liked.

Tony

 

[dirtyharriett]

Man I remember the day when I purchased a USAS-12... it was a very long time ago back in my somewhat newbie days. It was my very first class 3 purchase and was done off of GB. I never even got to hold it in my hands. This was back before the days before the "Trusts" work around and back then your NC county sheriffs dept had to sign off on it. Well after 18 months of going no where with the sheriffs dept I gave up and cancelled the purchase. It cost me a 30% restocking charge... OUCH. I will never forget nor forgive them for that one. I have still yet to get to hold or shoot a USAS-12. It used to be on my grail list. I kind of lost interest after that fiasco and almost forgot about it after I knew the AA12 existed. I remember when I first saw the AA12 on "Future Weapons"... I almost gave birth to a goat... lol. I jumped on my computer and went crazy looking for one for sale and to see if any semi auto versions existed since it was now unfortunately a SOT only weapon platform in FA. Man what a letdown when I saw that it was only a pipe dream. Now people may understand my excitement then incredible disappointment with what happened with Sol Invictus Arms AA12 situation. Ugggg... yet another firearm dream unrealized.