You aren't the only grunt in the house. I don't play that "I served for this or that reason " stuff because it's retroactive BS, none of us thought that way when we were 18 and signing that check. 17 in my case.
Different generations.....don't know when you served. Or where. I was in West Berlin from 1978-80 dealing with the Russians you are so understanding of., I earned a STASI file there (got a copy of it from the BStU Archives in Berlin in 2005) and met the wife who sleeps at the end of the hall as I write this. I'm deeper into dealing with those dudes than anyone who ever served anywhere else, unless you were Embassy Security in Moscow, that's sort of the thing about West Berlin. Ask anyone.
No one said it came from Russia, if you will actually read the entry instead of sounding off with some stuff you think proves your preselected point you will realize the missile system was already there AND I actually quoted that gouge in the post, so you didn't even HAVE to read to entry to know it. It came from a Ukrainian unit that went over to the Russians. So all that stuff about bridges is irrelevant, except for deceiving people who don't do their research, who like clever arguments. Or enough of it, because after all, "much good work is lost for want of a little more".
No offense taken brother. You are right that both sides have their issues, that why I'm on the side of the folks who are civilians being slaughtered by an actual Army. IDGAF about the rest of it, like ANY of that justifies what is being done. I'll tell you this, for me it's been highly instructive as to who has their fucking head screwed in straight and who doesn't. Every argument, fact, whatever, that people can come up with as far as why this is OK, or Putin was provoked, or WHATEVER......in the face of this slaughter.....these are people who I want to see repeat those opinions when their kid comes home in a bag marked "Remains, Human, Non-Viewable". Because that is the eventual outcome of this. If you think the Globalists are going to let this get solved by the EU/NATO countries by themselves with us getting dragged into it, you are dreaming. They are called Globalists for a reason.
As far as Nazi's go, I don't see you responding to those pics I posted. Doesn't fit your narrative perhaps. There's a lot of that going around these days.
Thanks for the in-depth reply Lamont.
“As far as Nazi's go, I don't see you responding to those pics I posted. Doesn't fit your narrative perhaps. There's a lot of that going around these days.”
What about the pics you posted? Of the Nazi tattooed guy?
He’s Russian? Hmmm.
As far as us serving in different generations, we actually served in the same era. I enlisted in the Marines on 24 August 1974 and separated after two four year enlistments on 15 July 1982.
When we were both serving our nation, the USSR was our sworn enemy that we trained everyday to defeat. I do not support communism or nazism in ANY form. My father and grandfather both fought in WWII against Nazi Germany. My brother sacrificed his life in January 1968 in RVN fighting communists. He was a 2nd Lt. in the 1st Cav. He had been in country for 3 1/2 months when he and 7 others in his platoon were killed by the communist NVA during the Tet Offensive.
Now, I don’t support Russia or Putin but I don’t support corrupt governments, even ours either.
I don’t have the “qualifications” that you evidently acquired while serving in Berlin in ‘78-‘80, I was just an E4 serving as 0331 (machine gunner) with the 1st Bn. 9th Marines in Okinawa and the West Pac at that time. I was only in Europe for 6 weeks while participating in cold weather warfare training ops in Norway.
I have in fact done a lot of research on the Ukraine and it’s political standings. In 2013, there was a coup that tossed out the duly elected president who supported Russia. It was in early 2014 when the Azov Bn was incorporated into the Ukrainian military. They were then turned on the people of eastern Ukraine (the Donetsk and Luhansk Oblasts) that refused to accept the new president that was installed into that position.
I can’t and won’t ever support Ukraine as it is today. It is my opinion, from what I’ve heard why Russia invaded Ukraine, was to push the Nazi Azov’s out of the Donbas Region who had been shelling the Russian speaking citizens of the region.
Donbas separated from Ukraine back in 2014 after the coup. Russia finally recognized the Donetsk and Luhansk Oblasts as independent States in early February of this year. The Russian Parliament sent correspondence to the Ukraine government stating that they would attack if the Ukrainian military didn’t stop shelling civilians in the Donbas.
Ukraine didn’t heed Russia’s warning which led to the Russian invasion in late February.
Now, do I trust Russia or Putin? NO. But I don’t trust our leadership either after the bullshit we’ve went through with the stolen presidential election and to CV19 BS.
Ukraine is just as guilty as Russia. They BOTH have major issues and I will say that we Americans don’t need to get ourselves involved. As a matter of fact, I believe the whole thing is an NWO ploy to kick off WWIII and their great reset.
When you have a few minutes, check out Patrick Lancaster on YouTube. Patrick is a US Navy veteran who has been an on the ground, independent journalist in Ukraine since 2014. Listen to what the civilians he interviews have to say regarding who is shelling them.
Anyway, I’ve enjoyed our debate.
Semper Fi Bro
ER Kale USMC
Sgt. 0311, 0331, 5711
1974-1982
