MP5 Reverse Stretch SWS Receiver

I have heard that they are problematic, more so from folks that heard from another, but I have also heard others rave about them... who knows.

I’m not debating you, just saying...
M.
 
yeah, if they weren't that "problematic" then bailey wouldn't have shut down SW so he didn't have the flood of guns coming back for warranty work to fix them, then formed a "new company" peddling the same garbage guns. then when those started to be returned for warranty work he shut that one down and formed yet a "new company"

once a company gets shut or close down there is no recourse for a person to gets his gun fixed, because that company no longer exist..........even though the person that closed down that company and formed a new one

as for others "raving" about them............even a broken clock is right twice a day. sometimes baily and his minions managed to make some guns that work. but I would say that would be the exception rather then the rule
 
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ghoulardi said:
yeah, if they weren't that "problematic" then bailey wouldn't have shut down SW so he didn't have the flood of guns coming back for warranty work to fix them, then formed a "new company" peddling the same garbage guns. then when those started to be returned for warranty work he shut that one down and formed yet a "new company"

once a company gets shut or close down there is no recourse for a person to gets his gun fixed, because that company no longer exist..........even though the person that closed down that company and formed a new one

as for others "raving" about them............even a broken clock is right twice a day. sometimes baily and his minions managed to make some guns that work. but I would say that would be the exception rather then the rule
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Well said. I have zero experience with any type of receivers.
 
It didn't bother anyone else but me the heading: MP5 Reverse Stretch RECEIVER?
I guess whatever sells. . . .


Standard MP5 Receiver:
MP5-Receiver.jpg

MP5-Reverse-STRETCH:
MP5-Reverse-STRETCH.jpg

My K Stretch made from a German MP5 Post Sample:
MP5-Stretch-K.jpg


I guess his receiver is shorter in front, does that mean the K-Trunnion is different?
I used a German K Barrel in mine. . . . .
 
SW standard and K. I do believe when doing a reverse stretch you need to use a K carrier
 

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ghoulardi said:
yeah, if they weren't that "problematic" then bailey wouldn't have shut down SW so he didn't have the flood of guns coming back for warranty work to fix them, then formed a "new company" peddling the same garbage guns. then when those started to be returned for warranty work he shut that one down and formed yet a "new company"

once a company gets shut or close down there is no recourse for a person to gets his gun fixed, because that company no longer exist..........even though the person that closed down that company and formed a new one

as for others "raving" about them............even a broken clock is right twice a day. sometimes baily and his minions managed to make some guns that work. but I would say that would be the exception rather then the rule
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Not to insult you but that is spoken like someone who has never built a clone with the intention to run it like you stole it on FA on a regular basis. I have been at this for a long time so I have a very extensive collection of German guns in addition to several SW and Vector guns that started life as bare receivers or barreled receivers.

If the former I installed a RCM barrel, trunnion and cocking tube, if latter I got rid of the improper laser welded cocking tube and installed a German or RCM one. In one case I removed the barrel and trunnion as well and started over as though it was a bare receiver.

Any build is only as good as the parts and labor that go into it, and these builds used either complete new POF BCG and recoil rods or a low mileage complete German HK unit. The lower grip frames were all converted German HK units. The stock were all quality German HK A3 or A2 units with the odd B&T folder mixed in for good measure.

All of these builds are sear ready If I decide to ever sell them, and they all run like sewing machines. As you can deduce the receiver was/is much less of a factor than is mix of the rest of the parts and labor that went into them.

Now if we are talking say a complete factory SW gun, then its a different story due to the poor mix of parts used to keep the cost of the gun down. In that case I agree with you because only some were runners, but most not so much until a lot of the parts were switched out. Even then the results were only so-so depending on how far the owner went which is germane to my my post. My point here is the receivers were typically pretty good especially the last generation ones.

This is my .02 from experience, and the advice I follow and give to others when building a gun off of a non German receiver such as SW and Vector. You are certainly entitled to you opinion, and certainly YMMV depending on your financial commitment and or skill level when building or having one built.
 
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flybynt said:
Not to insult you but that is spoken like someone who has never built one with the intention to run it like you stole it on FA on a regular basis. I have been at this for a long time so I have a very extensive collection of German guns in addition to several SW and Vector guns that started life as bare receivers or barreled receivers.

If the former I installed a RCM barrel, trunnion and cocking tube, if latter I got rid of the improper laser welded cocking tube and installed a German or RCM one. In one case I removed the barrel and trunnion as well and started over as though it was a bare receiver.

Any build is only as good as the parts and labor that go into it, and these builds used either complete new POF BCG and recoil rods or a low mileage complete German HK unit. The lower grip frames were all converted German HK units. The stock were all quality German HK A3 or A2 units with the odd B&T folder mixed in for good measure.

All of these builds are sear ready If I decide to ever sell them, and they all run like sewing machines. As you can deduce the receiver was/is much less of a factor than is mix of the rest of the gun and labor that went into them.

Now if we are talking a complete factory SW gun then its a different story due to the poor mix of parts used to keep the cost of the gun down and I might agree with you because some were runners and others not so much. My point here is the receivers were typically pretty good especially the last generation ones.

This is my .02 from experience, and the advice I follow and give to others when building a gun off of a non German receiver such as SW and Vector. You are certainly entitled to you opinion, and certainly YMMV depending on your financial commitment and and or skill level when building or having one built.
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Wow! Well said and you covered all the main talking points! Thank you, this very informative!!!!!
M.
 
Elkaholic said:
SW standard and K. I do believe when doing a reverse stretch you need to use a K carrier
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Yes correct, K front end (barrel, cocking tube support, cocking tube), and K carrier, plus a special length reoil rod spring assembly that is in in between K and full size length due to the mix of parts, and modifications to the full size receiver with the receiver notched back/cut back and welded in like a K for the cocking tube.
 
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